Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:13): The simple fact is that the unnamed source is incorrect. That which motivates this government is not trying to do a deal or not do a deal with Japan. What motivates this government is getting the best defence materiel that this nation can possibly get— Senator Cameron: Because the deal has been done. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron! Senator ABETZ: to serve the defence needs of our nation whilst also serving the best interest of the Australian taxpayer. So, what we want is quality submarines— Senator Conroy: Built in Japan. Senator ABETZ: at a reasonable price. Senator Cameron interjecting— Senator ABETZ: What Senator Cameron is championing is that if those two factors come into play it must be in Japan. We have not come to that conclusion. What we have said is that we want to socialise this with a number of countries such as—as I understand it, and I will correct the record if need be, and possibly Senator Brandis can help—Germany, France and Japan. They are on the list, and we are looking to see the very best result that we can get, keeping in mind that it was the Australian Labor Party that, whilst in government for six years, did nothing whatsoever to develop the new generation of submarines that this country needs for its strategic defence. So, having done nothing for six years, they now come into this place pretending to champion the cause of Australian-made submarines. If Senator Conroy and his colleagues before him had done the right thing, this process would have been well and truly in place, and indeed building should have been commencing. But, when we came into government, we realised that the promises that the Labor Party had made about how far they had gone down the road were shallow, hollow and untrue. (Time expired)