Senator JOHNSTON (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:35): Ultimately the government of the nation has ownership of the policy surrounding our most strategic and complex defence acquisitions. Let me just pause to say that I wish it was just that simple—mopping up the mess of five years of nothingness after the Labor Party promised the sun and the moon and delivered nothing. So— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Minister. Senator JOHNSTON: In short, on this project the government is effectively back in 2008. We are starting afresh because nothing has been done. What is worse, the program has had all of the money taken out of it whilst you were promising 12 submarines.