Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:19): As it happens, Senator Canavan, yes, I am aware of some of those statements. For example, 'Wayne Swan told me that the fiscal situation is ruinous.' Those were the words spoken by former Labor Minister Bob Carr, a fellow that used to sit in this chamber until very recently. Senator Conroy: That is the best you've got? Senator ABETZ: Senator Conroy interjects that that is the best I've got. If 'ruinous' is not bad enough, Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen said: I certainly agree that there are long-term structural issues in the budget, absolutely. That was only yesterday. Recognising the problems, what are they prepared to do about it? Do you know what they prepared to do about these structural problems that they now recognise? It is to vote down every savings measure that they recommended in their last budget. That is the height of the irresponsibility of Labor under Mr Shorten— (Time expired).