Mr ABBOTT (Warringah—Prime Minister) (14:59): Labor's Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme tax has not stopped people from getting the drugs they need. Ms King interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Ballarat will desist! You have asked your question—now listen to the answer. Mr ABBOTT: Let me get this right: first of all the member for Ballarat is against a modest co-payment on Medicare, and now, judging by her outburst, she is against a PBS co-payment. Just how irresponsible can Labor be? Ms Ryan interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Lalor will leave under 94(a). The member for Lalor then left the chamber. Mr ABBOTT: Just what kind of deficit do they want us to skyrocket towards when they are against all spending cuts, and now they want to abolish the PBS co-payment as well as oppose a modest co-payment on Medicare? It is really and truly about time members opposite explained themselves. Ms King: I rise on a point of order, Madam Speaker. The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister has completed his answer. And if you insist on asking broad ranging questions, the point about relevance is not valid when you make it.