Mr ABBOTT (Warringah—Prime Minister) (14:34): I simply point out to the member for Charlton that, under the modelling the former government produced for its carbon-tax-cum-emissions-trading-scheme, our iron and steel production was forecast to reduce by 20 per cent. Mr Conroy: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order on relevance. To be relevant, the Prime Minister needs to mention that wiped-out Whyalla butchers are now selling legs of lamb— The SPEAKER: The member will resume his seat and put down his prop. If the Prime Minister wishes to continue to answer the question, he may. Mr ABBOTT: I simply remind the member that the modelling the former government produced for its carbon-tax-cum-emissions-trading scheme showed that it would reduce Australia's iron and steel production by some 20 per cent and reduce Australia's aluminium production by some 60 per cent. Cities like Whyalla, dependent upon these industries, were in big trouble—but now they are not, because the carbon tax is gone. I am looking forward to visiting the people of Whyalla and reassuring them that at last they have a government that is on their side.