Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Human Services) (14:58): We understand that just throwing money at a problem and racking up debt on the nation's credit card does not work. After the six full years in office that they had to deal with this problem, they just sat on their hands and watched those childcare fees go through the roof. Not only did they sit on their hands; they added to the problem by dramatically increasing regulation. For instance, the ACECQA report into the regulatory burden of their NQF showed that the new regulations added an average of $145,000 per year to a long day care centre with 75 places and 15 educators. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Payne, resume your seat. You are entitled to be heard in silence. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator Lines interjecting— The PRESIDENT: On my left! Senator Lines! Senator PAYNE: We made a promise at the last election to task the Productivity Commission with a once-in-a-generation inquiry into this sector, which would look at ways of making childcare more flexible— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Payne, resume your seat. When there is silence on my left we will proceed. Senator Payne. Senator PAYNE: Thank you, Mr President. This is the problem when you have got no vision, when you had no plan and when you just tried to destroy the sector. You have nothing except this sort of response, which is completely ineffectual, because you know that you left it in a shambles. (Time expired)