Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:14): Thank you, Mr President. Once again, Senator Carr is peddling allegations as absolute facts. These are all matters that need to be, and will be, thoroughly tested by ICAC—and so be it. And that is the way that these matters should be dealt with. Indeed, Senator Wong has herself said that matters of this nature should be dealt with by the proper authority— Senator Wong: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. It is relevance: the question is about the Prime Minister's state of awareness of this issue associated with the donations from AWH to the Liberal Party. If the senator cannot answer—if he is not aware—I accept that he may wish to take it on notice, but we are simply asking: when did the Prime Minister become aware of the facts as outlined by Senator Carr? The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I have been listening to the minister's response. I believe the minister is addressing the question. Senator ABETZ: Thank you, Mr President. What Senator Wong has not understood throughout this whole matter is that, at the moment, there are a whole range of assertions being made—assertions that ICAC are testing by hearing evidence from a range of people. And I am sure, in her former life, Senator Wong would have known that sometimes a case sounds very strong until the other side is heard. What I would simply say to her is: take a deep breath, and allow ICAC to undertake its task. And we will then see where the cards fall.