Senator CONROY (Victoria—Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy, Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister on Digital Productivity) (14:50): This is just embarrassing. Senator Birmingham tried this on with Mr Quigley and the NBN team just recently. Mr Quigley tabled all of the information on this matter to show that we are in the ramp-up phase. Mr Quigley demonstrated categorically where the NBN is going and where it has been. This is just another gutless attack to try to pretend that they know something about the NBN. I can disclose to the chamber that the Liberal New South Wales government is building a $10 billion toll road to be completed in 2020. Do you know, not one car will drive on it until 2020? Not one car will actually go across this toll road until it is completed in 2020, after spending $10 billion—because you have actually got to build it before you can drive on it! It is exactly the same with the NBN: you have to build a core network— (Time expired) Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Resume your seat, Senator Conroy. Order! When there is silence on both sides, we will proceed.