Senator MILNE (Tasmania—Leader of the Australian Greens) (14:12): I do look forward to the minister coming back with those specific figures and also an answer as to whether that is going into Annex B. But I ask a further supplementary question: how can the government justify a target that is not science and evidence based? A five per cent reduction target, given the eight- to 14-gigaton emissions gap to keep us under two degrees is there. How can you justify a target that is not science and evidence based?