Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Jobs and Workplace Relations and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:29): I thank Senator Brown for the question. I am living proof that the early investment in music education does not necessarily deliver results. If you have ever heard me play the guitar you will understand why. Senator Brandis: I thought you might have been singing in a Welsh choir. Senator CHRIS EVANS: I am also the only descendent of Welsh people who cannot sing a note. But, in general terms, investment in the early years is the best investment we can make in children. Support, education and care in the early years not only is a huge determinant of a child's future capacity but maximises their potential, and music is a very important part of that. If you go to any good quality early learning centres you will see them using music as a central part of the learning experience for young children, and the value of music in early learning is well appreciated. I will see what other information I can get for Senator Brown in terms of the specifics of his question. (Time expired)