Senator CARR (Victoria—Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) (14:18): The government will update its budgetary estimates in the usual way. This is necessary because of the policies that the opposition have pursued. I find it a particular irony that we now have a unity ticket between the most extreme right-wing opposition this country has seen, probably in its history, and of course the Greens. At least I can say this about the Greens: the Greens are at least fair dinkum about their policy position. You are an opposition bound by one thing only: political opportunism. The political opportunism is leading to people being drowned at sea. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Carr, resume your seat. Order! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: When people have settled down—Senator Cash was on her feet. Senator Cash, just resume your seat. When we have silence I will ask you to stand. Senator Cash. Senator Cash: Mr President, I raise a point of order in relation to relevance. I have to say that, whilst I am enjoying the minister's entertainment this afternoon, my question was quite specific: how many more billions of dollars will the government waste on its failed border protection policies? The PRESIDENT: The minister is answering the question. The minister has 24 seconds remaining. I call the minister—if you have anything further to add. Senator CARR: Mr President, the position is very clear. The government has a firm policy position which is being frustrated by those in the opposition, working in collaboration with the Greens. We have a situation here where the most extreme elements of the coalition are now in league with the Greens. The difference is that at least the Greens are working on the basis of principle as they see it. (Time expired) Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: When those on my left are ready, there is a person from your side wishing to ask a question. Senator Sterle interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Sterle, I am waiting for there to be silence so I can let Senator Cash be heard in silence. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: If people want to have a private discussion, go outside now, but do not carry it on across the chamber.