Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:52): I have been asked again to give details of a package that the government will be announcing on Sunday, and I do not propose to do that. I am interested to know whether or not Senator Birmingham is one of the so-called ginger group of modest members who have been set up to ensure that the coalition does not desert— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, resume your seat. When there is silence— Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: On my right! Senator Ian Macdonald: Mr President, I raise a point of order on the grounds of direct relevance. As usual, this minister spends the first half of her question period attacking the questioner because she is incapable of answering. But the question was: did she agree with a colleague? That is not hypothetical or asking for a future policy announcement. The PRESIDENT: That is not a point of order. I have ruled it is not a point of order. Senator Wong, you have one minute and 29 seconds in which to respond to the question. Senator WONG: If one is asked about agreement with one's colleagues, I would have thought the coalition would not mind being reminded that some of them do not agree with the deserting of rational economic policy. This is what this group is: set up to ensure the coalition does not desert rational economic policy. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: I am going to draw the minister's attention to the question. I draw the minister's attention to the question. Minister, you have one minute and 11 seconds remaining to answer the question. Senator WONG: Thank you, Mr President. In relation to petrol, I have indicated in this chamber the position of the government—I think on a number of occasions yesterday. The Prime Minister has indicated it. In relation to further detail—as I said also, I think, on a number of occasions yesterday—those details will be announced on Sunday. Senator Brandis: Conveniently to avoid parliamentary scrutiny. Senator WONG: I will take that interjection, Senator Brandis. The interjection from Senator Brandis is about parliamentary scrutiny. I again remind this chamber of the extent of the scrutiny of the previous legislation to price carbon. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, would you just resume your seat. Your colleagues—those on both my left and my right—are having a discussion which makes it absolutely impossible to hear what you are saying. Senator WONG: As I was saying, the interjection—if I may take it—from Senator Brandis relating to parliamentary scrutiny belies the fact that that side of politics and that side of the chamber had many opportunities to scrutinise the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme. They had many inquiries. We had months and months with many inquiries, and it made not one iota of difference. One knows that, no matter how much scrutiny you would have on this occasion, you will not shift position. (Time expired)