Mr SWAN (Lilley—Deputy Prime Minister and Treasurer) (14:53): I thank the member for her question. We have made it very clear that all of the detail for pricing carbon will be provided on Sunday. We have made it very clear that we will be putting a price on carbon pollution on up to 100—sorry, up to 1,000— Ms Julie Bishop: Could be a hundred. Mr SWAN: of our largest polluters— The SPEAKER: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition will leave the chamber for one hour under standing order 94(a). The member for Curtin then left the chamber. Mr Pyne: Mr Speaker, I raise a point of order. I simply say, on behalf of the Deputy Leader of the Opposition, that when you were speaking earlier on the point of order that I made, the minister for health interjected and you told her to be quiet but did not remove her from the chamber under 94(a). Yet the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has been removed under 94 (a). I simply ask if you think that is fair. The SPEAKER: I thank the Manager of Opposition Business. I know I will get the emails that I have not been fair. I indicated to him at the end of the answer of the Minister for Health and Ageing that nobody could have heard the answer because so many people were interjecting and I took no action at that. If I am allowed to make stanzas of what is happening here in question time, I will. I can assure him: if I had tossed out everybody who transgressed since the general warning I would be very comfortable but very lonely in the chamber. Mr SWAN: We have already made it very clear that the consequence of putting a price on carbon pollution for up to 1,000 of our largest polluters will have modest price increases. We have made that very clear. And of course they will flow through the system, which is why the government is so intent on putting in place additional assistance for households, and we have outlined the principles that that will be based on. There will also be— The SPEAKER: The Treasurer will resume his place. Whoever has the phone that just went off is very lucky. Under a general warning that would be worth a naming, but I cannot find out who it is. The member for Forrest has the call on a point of order. Ms Marino: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My point of order is relevance. The question was about Graham Manning, a dairy farmer, and the increased electricity costs to his small business. Mr SWAN: I was making it very clear that there will be additional assistance for households: there will be tax cuts, there will be increases in family payments and there will be increases in pensions. All of those things are very important. I know they do not matter to those opposite, because if they were in power they would simply rip them out. The SPEAKER: Order! The Treasurer will respond to the question. Mr SWAN: I am responding to the question, Mr Speaker. All of the detail will be there on Sunday for everybody to see, and can I just make this point: we absolutely look forward to this debate in the weeks ahead so that all of the scaremongering that has come from those opposite can be exposed for what it is.