Mr HILL (Bruce) (14:42): My question is to the Minister for Social Services. What policy changes is the government making to ensure that seniors are not going to be forced to use the cruel cashless debit card to access their pension? The SPEAKER: I give the call to the Minister for Social Services. Honourable members i nterjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! The minister will be heard in silence. Mr Young interjecting— The SPEAKER: Member for Longman, I just asked the House if the minister could be heard in silence and you interjected straightaway. Can we cease interjections at least until the minister starts talking? The Minister for Social Services.