Ms LEY (Farrer—Minister for Health and Minister for Sport) (15:01): The shadow minister has been the shadow minister for how long? And she does not understand some of the basic concepts that have been around in health policy for how long? But I would be delighted to arrange a private briefing for the member for Ballarat— Mr Dreyfus interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Isaacs will desist or leave! Ms LEY: because I do not want to embarrass her here on the floor of the parliament. Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: I know it is Thursday afternoon, and the anxiousness to get an early mark is becoming more and more apparent—even if it is on a bus. We will have some silence for questions and answers for the remainder of the time or there will be lots of people queuing for the bus. Ms Plibersek interjecting— The SPEAKER: And that includes the member for Sydney. Ms LEY: The opposition will ask a question but they will not always listen to the answer, which is unfortunate. There is no doubt that direct billing is a policy idea. As I said, there are many policy ideas that have come to the coalition. If the member for Ballarat is so bereft of policy ideas that she has to ask us, that is an interesting point in itself. Ms Kate Ellis interjecting— Ms Owens interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Adelaide will desist and the member for Parramatta has been warned. Ms LEY: As I said, explanations can be arranged via the coalition or the Parliamentary Library. Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: The Minister for Health has the call and there will be silence for the answer. Ms LEY: Many ideas about future policies in health have come to the coalition during the course of my consultations, and direct billing has been one of them. Direct billing looks different in different circumstances. It is a policy idea that, as I said, has been around for a long time. It is one of many ideas that have come to me from across the country. I make absolutely no apology for considering every idea that comes across my desk and listening to everything that is presented or for looking at the context in which we as a parliament should all try to make Medicare sustainable. At the moment, the opposition have no ideas in this space. They are a policy-free zone. When I go back and look to see what ideas they might have had in the past all I can come up with is something that the member for Ballarat should be familiar with, which is the super epic GP superclinics fail which was investigated by the Auditor-General, a body with which the member for Ballarat should be eminently familiar. It made some very clear points about Labor policy failures in the past, so do not criticise us about constructive policy formation.