Mr ABBOTT (Warringah—Prime Minister) (14:28): The government is proposing a 1½ per cent increase for members of our Defence Force, so the premise of the member's question is simply false—simply false. If members opposite want to have a proper debate in this House they should deal with facts, not fiction. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Griffith and the member for Lingiari will desist! Mr ABBOTT: I have concluded my answer.