Senator JOHNSTON (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:31): Let me say that I did not attack the workers directly at ASC. If Mr Daniels took offence, of course I would apologise to him. Of course I do and I unreservedly apologise because if you had been at the launch of ship 1 you would have heard me commend the workforce on their capacity. I said we had a long way to go in terms of productivity. The main problem I have had with that organisation has been the management. I sought to sit down with the chair of that organisation to say we must do better and that has been my intent. For my trouble I do not think I have got very far; however, I am consistently, persistently and determinedly approaching that organisation so that we can build a further eight ships in Adelaide.