Senator DAVID POCOCK (Australian Capital Territory—Independent ACT Whip) (17:15): My question is for the Minister representing the Minister for Housing, Minister Farrell. On 8 October 2024, in response to my question on the progress of the National Housing and Homelessness Plan, you said: We are working with the states and territories as we speak. The new minister, Clare O'Neil, is working very hard to get movement on that project. I, again, asked for an update in February this year. We're now in October, and the plan has still not been released. Can the minister tell the Senate when the plan will be released. The PRESIDENT: Senator Pocock, I think you directed your question to Senator Farrell. I'm happy to ask the senator to— Senator DAVID POCOCK: I may have got it wrong. Is it Minister Ayres? Senator Gallagher: It's Minister Ayres. Senator DAVID POCOCK: Thank you very much. The PRESIDENT: Minister Ayres.