Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Leader of the Nationals in the Senate) (14:18): Minister, the opposition has been made aware that the government does intend to take retaliatory action as a result of its decision to vote in favour of transparency. I'm advised that the Leader of the House in the other place has specifically threatened to remove parliamentarians from positions and has stated that this is specifically to reduce their remuneration as a result of a decision in this chamber. Minister, can you confirm to this chamber that the tactics of the CFMEU have now been revealed as the tactics of the Labor government in the workplace of the national parliament? Senator Ayres interjecting— Senator McGrath interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Ayres and Senator McGrath, if you want to chat, do it outside the chamber. Perhaps there will be fewer interjections if you do that. Senator McKenzie, I am advised that the management of the House of Representatives chamber is not within the portfolio area of— Senator McKenzie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: It's not a debating point, Senator McKenzie. I'm simply advising that your question is not within the portfolio area of the minister. However, I am going to invite the minister once again to answer it in whatever way he sees fit.