Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:39): I thank the senator for her question. It's very curious that they're worried about biosecurity given that they've no interest in net zero with what the other side are trying to do in terms of looking after the care of this country. President, I will say this: Minister Farrell has made it very clear, and so has— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator McCARTHY: You see, those opposite laugh because they are so divided about what they are doing in relation to this space. They laugh about it and they don't care. The PRESIDENT: Senator McDonald. Senator McDonald: On relevance: this is a rambling—I'm not sure what, but it's certainly not relevant. The PRESIDENT: The minister is being relevant, and I will continue to listen. Senator McCARTHY: Thank you for that, because I am absolutely being relevant. We do care very much about biosecurity. We do know that we have done everything we can in this space given the mess that you left in underfunding that whole area. The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Cash. Senator Cash: Again, it's relevance. The question was very direct: can the minister guarantee there are no biosecurity issues or concerns with this decision? The PRESIDENT: I will make this point to the earlier point of order: if you want your question answered then don't interject, because the minister is entitled to take those interjections. Secondly, in response to the matter just raised by Senator Cash, the minister is being directly relevant. Senator McCARTHY: We certainly are not compromising on biosecurity. The PRESIDENT: Senator McDonald, second supplementary?