Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:37): I thank the senator for her question. I'm a little surprised by the question, actually, given that this was a process that occurred directly under those opposite and has been going for 10 years. I'm not quite sure what it is that the opposition don't understand about this, other than the fact that there is hypocrisy being shown by these questions in regard to science. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator McCARTHY: There absolutely is. This has gone on for nearly a decade, and we know that there has been a process that has been thoroughly done through this. Senator McDonald, you know that as much as anyone does. The PRESIDENT: Senator McCarthy, I remind you to direct your answers through the chair. Senator McDonald, first supplementary?