Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:47): As a senator for the Northern Territory and, certainly, as Minister for Indigenous Australians, I'll always do my utmost to represent First Nations people across the country. The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, second supplementary? Senator Thorpe: That's not what they say! The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, wait until you're called. Senator Thorpe: Did you call me? The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe— Senator Thorpe: Do you want me to sit— The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, you are not in a debate with me. I simply asked you to wait until you were called. Senator Thorpe interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, come to order! Senator Thorpe, second supplementary?