Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:45): Thank you, Senator Thorpe, for the question. Given that Middle Arm is a focus of one of my colleagues, I will touch specifically on the First Nations element of it, and, of course, I'm sure there will be more to say in regard to Middle Arm. In terms of any First Nations organisations or First Nations people to do with construction or with development, there is always a process in each state and territory jurisdiction. It is not for the Commonwealth, in this particular instance, to focus specifically on the Larrakia people; it is for the Northern Territory government in terms of the discussions and decisions they have. But in terms of— The PRESIDENT: Minister McCarthy, please resume your seat. Senator Thorpe? Senator Thorpe: A point of order on relevance: this is about free, prior and informed consent. How do you get that? The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Thorpe. Your question was much broader than that, and the minister is being relevant to your question. Senator McCARTHY: As I was about to say, we have the four land councils in the Northern Territory. Under the Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Act, their role is to consult with each of the language groups across their jurisdiction. The Northern Land Council covers the northern part of the Top End. You have the Central Land Council in the central part of the Territory. You have Anindilyakwa Land Council over on Groote Eylandt, and you have the Tiwi Land Council on the Tiwi Islands. It is important that through the Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Act, whether it's with Larrakia people or people in the western area or the Yolngu in the eastern area, there is a process they go through to provide their consent. The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, first supplementary?