Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:34): Thank you, Senator Tyrrell. As we know, this did begin under the previous coalition government, in terms of the seven years, and I do know that our minister is certainly working diligently not just with the city deals in Tasmania but right across the country. She's still working very closely in particular with the Tasmanian government to see this move along, and we can certainly— Senator Polley: We know how hopeless the state government is. Senator McCARTHY: It would be good, President, if senators from Tasmania were perhaps asking this question too. Senator Duniam interjecting— Senator McCARTHY: In fact, you may want to speak to your Premier in Tasmania and ask what is actually going on, Senator Duniam. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Order, senators across the chamber! Senator McCarthy, have you concluded your answer? Thank you. Second supplementary, Senator Tyrrell?