Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:13): I'm not entirely sure whether those opposite are for the energy bill relief or against it. I think they were against it, and now they seem to be arguing to extend it. That's what I took from the question, so I think you're arguing to extend it. I noticed there wasn't an answer from the shadow finance minister when asked two or three times this morning about whether or not they would move to abolish the energy bill rebates. There wasn't an answer at all. They come in here and vote against it and complain about the extra spending, but then aren't able to answer the simple question of do they support it or do they not? The reality is that when we came to government inflation had a six in front of it. It now has a three in front of it. Inflation is moderating, as the RBA has confirmed and as our Treasury forecasts confirm. The RBA has made a number of statements, including that running surplus budgets—something those opposite were unable to do despite the mugs being sent out as a fundraiser—are actually supporting the bank's work when they are using monetary policy. In addition to that, I think the governor has pointed out that we are doing the job that we needed to do. Senator Birmingham interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: Well, the forecasts show, Senator Birmingham, that inflation continues to moderate. The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Minister Wong, on a point of order? Senator Wong: I ask the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate perhaps to cease his interjection against the Minister for Finance for a second— Senator Birmingham interjecting— Senator Wong: and maybe don't call me— Senator Birmingham interjecting— Senator Wong: You are going to call me that? Really? We've let it go. They are very keen to complain if others interject on them. I remember then senator Brandis threatening to throw me out. Senator Birmingham interjecting— Senator Wong: No, I've never said that. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, I will address the point of order. I have called Senator Birmingham in particular to order and I have called the Senate in particular to order. I would remind senators that question time is a time to listen and to respond if your name is against a question. Other than that, there should be silence. Minister, please continue. Senator GALLAGHER: In the time left, it is probably appropriate that I repeat the governor's statement from 8 August, where she acknowledges that the government's job is to get inflation down but also to provide services and infrastructure that the Australian people need, like energy bill rebates, for example. Here we go, I will finish on this: 'My personal view is that they are doing what they can.' The PRESIDENT: Senator McDonald, first supplementary?