Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:21): I thank the senator for her question. The advice I have in relation to the swift parrot recovery plan perhaps differs from what she just read out. The advice I have is that the plan has been endorsed by the federal government's independent Threatened Species Scientific Committee, which includes many of Australia's most experienced and respected scientists. But I think the real nub of the question from the senator is that— Senator McKim: They're the swift parrot recovery team. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKim! Senato r McKim: Well, it's a different team. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, I am calling you to order! The minister is answering. Senator WONG: I have listened to what the senator put to me, and if there's anything further, notwithstanding the information that Senator McKim appears to be wanting to share with us, I will provide that. I think the real nub of the question that the senator is asking is at the end. I know the Greens political party have a position in relation to native forests— Senator Rice: We don't like native animals becoming extinct. The PRESIDENT: Senator Rice, it's not a commentary. You've asked your question, and the minister is answering. Senator WONG: They have a position on native forest logging. I would say to them that I think we all understand—and the Albanese government understands—that native forests are valuable for their carbon storage and native habitats, including for endangered animals like swift parrots. That is why the government has already announced that, for the first time in Australia, the regional forest agreements will have to comply with new environment laws. I understand that the position that has been put to me is essentially a hard-line position—'hard-line' meaning it's drawing a line; I wasn't trying to make a political comment—in relation to native forests. Obviously, the government has to balance the regional forest agreement imperatives as well as the environmental imperatives that the senator references. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Rice, a first supplementary?