Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (15:00): Thank you, Senator Sheldon. We know that, over the last couple of weeks, we've had a whole lot of Johnny-come-latelies who've all of a sudden decided to take an interest in Qantas. But there are some people, like Senator Sheldon, Senator White, Senator Sterle and others, who have long careers in standing up for the workers of Qantas to make sure that they're treated fairly. They're not Johnny-come-latelies; they're people who've actually got records of standing up on these issues. These loopholes that Senator Sheldon is complaining about impact Australians every day, and they create a race to the bottom on wages. They undermine negotiated pay and conditions, and they undermine the integrity of the enterprise bargaining system. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Watt, please resume your seat. Order! Once again, Senator Henderson! Senator WATT: So rude—so consistently rude. These loopholes, which allow wage theft— Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Watt, please resume your seat. Order on my right! Senator Henderson? Senator Henderson: On indulgence, President: just to clarify, that was not me in that last interjection. But I want to say— The PRESIDENT: Senator Henderson, I am happy to— Senator Henderson: I want to correct the record, please. The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Henderson, I'm quite happy to review the tape, but I'm firmly of the view that you were being disorderly—along with a number of other senators, but your voice was the loudest, and I heard you distinctly say to the minister, 'You talked about workers at Qantas.' I am more than happy to review the tape, but you were being disorderly. Senator Henderson interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Henderson, you are not in a debate with me. I've spent most of question time calling you to order, and once again I'm calling you to order. Senator WATT: The loopholes Senator Sheldon is talking about, allowing wage theft, insecure work and low wages, which those opposite let fester for a decade, undermine the job security of workers, and they undermine employers who do the right thing. The Albanese government will not allow Australia to become a country where you have to rely on tips to survive, and the opposition should back us. The PRESIDENT: Senator Sheldon, second supplementary?