Senator GROGAN (South Australia) (14:36): I thank the minister for that response. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Grogan, please resume your seat. Senator Hughes, I have called the chamber to order. I had a senator asking a question, and the loudest voice in the chamber was yours. Senator Grogan, please begin the question again. Senator GROGAN: I thank the minister. That really has cleared it up for me. I thought I was a bit mad thinking there was a proposal for a different referendum that agreed with recognition but didn't agree with listening to anything that that recognition would give you, so thank you for that. Can the minister please inform the Senate how consultation has guided the proposal for the Voice and why that— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Grogan, please continue. Senator GROGAN: I'll just refresh: can the minister please inform the Senate how consultation has guided the proposal for the Voice and why that is so important?