Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:23): I'm asked about the reasons why a government would make this decision, and I refer again to the very experienced former transport minister Mr McCormack, who gave this rationale, which I think might be instructive for Senator McKenzie: … you can't have an airline coming in from overseas and just undercutting to the point where Australian jobs are at risk and Australian airlines are placed at a disadvantage. We can't have an airline with very deep pockets undercut, undercut, undercut and … people go to them as opposed to an airline that may— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, please resume your seat. Senator McKenzie? Senator McKenzie: A point of order on direct relevance. Who is this government protecting when it claims the decision was in the national interest? The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, just go clearly to the point of order. I will remind the minister of the question. Senator WONG: I am surprised— Senator Birmingham interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Birmingham, order—please. Senator Birmingham: Where's the actual rationale for the decision? The PRESIDENT: Senator Birmingham, I've just called you to order. Minister Wong. Senator WONG: I am surprised by the disrespect that those opposite hold for Mr McCormack. I would have thought he actually has been a transport minister, and his comments today in the Australian perhaps are a reminder to his party and his coalition friends about the real world in which these— (Time expired)