Senator SHELDON (New South Wales) (15:00): Thank you very much, Minister Watt. I travel a lot for work, as many of us do, but I've also gotten to know the staff. I'll never forget having two long-serving Qantas staff members— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator SHELDON: You may want to listen to this: two Qantas staff members breaking down in tears because they'd been told they could reapply for their same job at a lower rate of pay with labour hire or lose their job. What impact do these existing loopholes have— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Sheldon, resume your seat. Order on my left! Senator SHELDON: What impact do these existing loopholes have on workers' wages and job security? (Time expired)