Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:11): I thank Senator Duniam for his question. I can let the Greens speak for themselves on their side of the agreement. What I want to do is recognise the support that this agreement has gained, from conservation groups all the way to business groups. To give one example: Jennifer Westacott from the Business Council said, 'Business welcomes progress towards ending the impasse'— The PRESIDENT: Minister Farrell, please resume your seat. Senator Duniam. Senator Duniam: President, it won't surprise you that I'm raising a point of order on direct relevance. While I appreciate all the glowing endorsements the minister seems to have manufactured, I asked a specific question. Can I have an answer, please? The PRESIDENT: You asked particularly about the Greens position on a number of matters, and the minister has been relevant to that. Senator Birmingham. Senator Birmingham: On the point of order and your ruling, President: Senator Duniam did not ask about the Greens position. The question he asked was, 'Can the minister confirm that the government has agreed to adopt this climate trigger?' The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Birmingham. The question started with the Greens. It went to the safeguard mechanism, climate pollution and a climate trigger and then it asked the government's position. I believe the minister is being relevant. I will continue to listen carefully, and, if he's not being relevant, I will draw him to the question. Senator FARRELL: Thank you, President. I can say that we're not amending the EPBC Act. What we're doing is saying that, when a project is approved under the EPBC Act, its emissions will be assessed against the safeguard mechanism targets. The two processes remain completely separate. It's about sensibly sharing information that is relevant to the safeguard mechanism scheme. The scheme does not give scope to the minister to reverse environmental approvals, and, while the government already has accountability through the Annual climate change statement, we are happy to add additional transparency and accountability to make sure the intention of the reforms is met. I might add—I mentioned Jennifer Westacott—that the Ai Group made a comment about this deal that you don't like, Senator Duniam. They said it's a good deal. Innes Willox says it's a good deal. The treatment— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Duniam, first supplementary?