Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:14): Thank you, Senator Chandler, for your supplementary question. Again, you've got the answer, because the finance minister, who's in charge of this area, answered the question yesterday. You've referred to the issues that Senator Gallagher raised yesterday. Can I expand on the financial mess that we discovered when we came to government? Can I just report on one fact that puts this into perspective? When Labor lost power in 2013, our national debt was $300 billion. When we came to power almost 12 months ago, that figure had blown out to $1 trillion. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Chandler, second supplementary?