Senator COLBECK (Tasmania—Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians and Minister for Youth and Sport) (14:59): I think I've very clearly indicated that older Australians, whether they're in regional Australia or in metropolitan Australia, are waiting too long for home care packages. The objective of the government in its policy development work is to reduce the waiting list, a clearly stated objective. They're waiting too long. The royal commission told us that. The royal commission told us to take action, and we intend to address that. Our significant investment into home care packages—$2.2 billion since last year's budget—indicates that we take this matter seriously. We are looking to reduce the number of home care packages. We injected an increase of 25 per cent last year and saw for the first time a reduction in waiting lists. We've said that we will invest further in this space. We take this matter seriously. As I have said a number of times, we want older Australians to get the care they need. The PRESIDENT: Senator O'Neill, on a point of order? Senator O'Neill: Can I remind the minister that I did ask if he could clarify that many of the services may not be available at all in that context. The PRESIDENT: That was part of your question. Another part is that you ask the minister whether the minister agrees. That was a broad question, in contrast to the previous one. I think, with respect, that the minister is being directly relevant to the question asked.