Senator RUSTON (South Australia—Minister for Families and Social Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:20): Thank you, Senator Brown, for your follow-up question. At no time was the information that you're referring to ever provided to my office. Subsequent to a request from the media, we sought from the department the collated information to which you are referring. That information was collated and subsequently provided to the journalist that asked for it. So I don't think there's anything to see here, apart from a group of older Australians who chose to vote in this government to look after their interests. If you'd like me to talk about deeming rates I can talk for hours about deeming rates, because I understand clearly that 900,000 Australians are benefiting from the reduction in the deeming rate—they will actually benefit in the forthcoming week—not only because their deeming rate will reduce the amount they are deemed to have earned in this particular period but because they will also get three months of the reduced deeming rate as a back payment in their next payment. So for the 900,000— (Time expired)