Senator RUSTON (South Australia—Minister for Families and Social Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:30): I thank the senator for her question. I'll take on notice the actual specifics, of the Minister for Government Services, in relation to the recovering of debt that is the overpayment of taxpayers' funds to Australians. I would also say to this chamber that in many instances the first thing that happens, when it comes to income compliance review—I hope you understand that. When you end up with a situation where we seek from somebody who is a recipient of a taxpayer funded payment to them, if there is a discrepancy that is identified between the records that we hold at the Department of Human Services and the records at the ATO and at the end of a period when we assess that, we will seek a discrepancy clarification— Senator Gallagher: I have a point of order on relevance. The question is very straightforward: is the government pursuing any debts prior to 2013-14? That is the question. The PRESIDENT: Thank you. The minister has been speaking for a minute. I take the opportunity to remind the minister of the specific nature of the question. Senator Ruston. Senator RUSTON: Thank you very much. I can confirm that the online compliance initiative does not go back past seven years. But in response to the question from Senator Smith, as I was saying, when a discrepancy has been identified between the information that an individual or a family has provided to the Department of Human Services and the ATO, we seek clarification from the individual as to whether there is a reason why that discrepancy exists. We do not raise a debt unless it has been formally identified in that process that the person has actually incurred a debt or has received moneys of which they weren't entitled. The very reason that we do this is the social welfare system in Australia is based on its sustainability, into the future, and that means that we make sure that people get what they are entitled to receive. The PRESIDENT: Senator Smith, a supplementary question.