Senator RUSTON (South Australia—Minister for Families and Social Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:05): Can I just express my extreme disappointment. After repeated requests in this place, both privately and during question time, to Senator Green that, at any time Senator Green had, could she please provide that piece of information to me— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left and my right! Senator RUSTON: As I said, I'm tremendously disappointed, having repeatedly asked for this information to be made available. If Senator Green wished to make this information available through the question time process, she could have availed herself of the opportunity to provide us with a copy of the letter before— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Cormann on a point of order. Senator Cormann: On a point of order: I think Senator Wong knows that interjections and repeated interjections are disorderly, and I think we've had a fair bit of that. The PRESIDENT: On the point of order, Senator Watt? Senator Watt: No—actually on a separate point of order. The PRESIDENT: Could I rule on this point of order. Interjections are always disorderly. I was having trouble hearing the minister, I will say, with the interjections. Senator Watt, on another point of order. Senator Watt: There are only 14 seconds left and the minister hasn't answered the question, which is: how is that notice consistent with her previous statements that there has been no debt recovery undertaken in the Townsville area? That's the question. The PRESIDENT: Senator Watt, as I said, I was having difficulty hearing the minister. There was obviously some debate regarding the tabling of the document. I took it that the minister was actually referring to the document and that issue in her answer. Senator Ruston. Senator RUSTON: As I was saying, I made the offer in this place, and the offer remains, and I thank the Senator for— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong. Senator Wong: A point of order on direct relevance. Please answer the question. Senator Ruston interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong. Senator Wong: Democracy, accountability of ministers to the people through the parliament. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Wong. Senator Cormann. Senator Cormann: This is now a debating point. She's not raising a point of order. The PRESIDENT: Interjections are not helpful. On the point of order, the minister is referring to the document that Senator Green mentioned and sought leave to table. I consider that to be directly relevant. Senator Ruston. Senator RUSTON: Thank you very much, Mr President. If I could just go back to my line of response to the question that you asked, and that was— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Green, a final supplementary question.