Senator SIEWERT (Western Australia—Australian Greens Whip) (14:14): My question is to the Minister for Families and Social Services, Senator Ruston. Minister, according to the data from the Department of Social Services, the average amount of time someone spends on Newstart is 156 weeks—that is, three years. Why does the government continually refer to Newstart as a transition payment when it clearly isn't, given the average length of time that somebody is on Newstart is three years?