Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:02): I again draw the senator's attention to the statements that have been made that Mr Taylor did not ask for or indeed even know that the officer present at the meeting was a compliance officer— Senator Wong: On a point of order—I'm reluctant to do it so quickly, but given the last answer was only about nine seconds long: references to past statements are not directly relevant to the question. This question is: how many other landowners got this special treatment? I think the public are entitled to know that. The government is saying: 'This was perfectly fine. Minister Taylor can demand this.' How many other landowners got this special treatment? The PRESIDENT: I'm reluctant to say that references to past statements are, by that nature, not directly relevant. I thought the minister was actually addressing the first part of the question, which was the preamble to the bit you just reminded him of. Senator Birmingham. Senator BIRMINGHAM: Thank you, Mr President, I was indeed making the point, given the question referenced the attendance of a compliance officer at the meeting, that Mr Taylor has been clear that he did not know that there was a compliance officer present at this meeting. I further highlight the statement of the secretary of the Department of the Environment and Energy, who has said very clearly on the record, 'In relation to compliance, I can be very clear that Minister Taylor has never raised the issue with me.' In relation to the insinuation that somehow nobody else is concerned about this issue, can I draw the Senate's attention to a joint letter from New South Wales Farmers and the National Farmers' Federation dated 3 October 2017 with regard to 'EPBC listing: natural temperate grassland of the South Eastern Highlands of New South Wales and the ACT'. This clearly was an issue of interest to farmers across this region, including the local MP. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Chisholm, a final supplementary question.