Senator FIFIELD (Victoria—Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Minister for Communications and the Arts) (14:04): I reflect on the reflection that Senator Wong is making on the independence and the integrity of the secretary of my department in the work that he has undertaken in the inquiry. Senator Wong: On you, mate! On you! The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator FIFIELD: Just because Senator Wong keeps repeating something does not make it true. You can't come into this place and keep repeating things that are not true. As I have made extremely clear, I have always respected the independence of the ABC. I have never sought in any way, shape or form—not hinted nor intimidated in any way in relation to ABC staffing matters. Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left. It is only Monday!