Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Jobs and Innovation) (14:55): Senator Watt, you are the one who has questioned me in estimates now for over 40 hours, I think, and you know that everything I have stated is set out on the Hansard record. I have absolutely nothing to hide. This is politically motivated by the AWU. The proceedings are between the AWU and the Registered Organisations Commission, because the AWU did not want to produce the documents to show that donations made by Mr Shorten— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, on a point of order. Senator Ian Macdonald: Don't like the answer? Senator Wong: No, the point of order is on direct relevance. This goes to the issue of the subpoena and why the minister is refusing to comply with the subpoena. She has been asked why she is so concerned about giving evidence under oath. She ought to answer that question. The PRESIDENT: I'm listening carefully to the minister's answer to this question. I consider it directly relevant. I also note she has been speaking for only 28 seconds and has just over 1½ minutes remaining to answer. Senator CASH: As I said, this is politically motivated, nothing more and nothing less. The AWU do not want to produce the documentation to show that the donations were properly authorised. The PRESIDENT: Senator Watt, a supplementary question.