Senator CONROY (Victoria—Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) (14:48): Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. Will we be seeing the Minister for Defence on the Senate front bench next year or does he agree with his junior minister who the Australian Finance Review reports today was overheard telling his Liberal colleagues that the— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Heffernan on a point of order. Senator Heffernan: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. Stephen Conroy is not a boofhead. The PRESIDENT: That is no point of order and, Senator Heffernan, that is an abuse of taking a point of order. Senator CONROY: Or does he agree with his junior minister who the Financial Review reports today was overheard telling his Liberal colleagues that the defence minister was a gonna from cabinet? The PRESIDENT: Minister, you can answer the portions of that question which fit within your portfolio.