Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance) (14:15): If Senator Milne is concerned about the capacity of Australia to meet our emissions reduction targets, what she should look at is our track record. Our track record here in Australia is that we are actually consistently meeting and exceeding our emissions reduction targets, contrary to the performance of various jurisdictions in other parts of the world that are making very ambitious claims in relation to these matters. Senator Milne: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. I asked the minister about modelling. Would he come to the point, please? The PRESIDENT: The minister has over three-quarters of the time left to give his answer. Senator CORMANN: I effectively answered the question in my first couple of words. The government absolutely stands by our assertion that we will comfortably meet the emissions reduction target that we have committed to in a bipartisan fashion. What I would also say to the Senate is that Senator Milne has absolutely no credibility when it comes to emissions reduction efforts, because Senator Milne is the leader of a party that stands for regular reductions in the real value of the excise on fuel. Senator Milne is the leader of a party that stands for a proposition that we should give money collected from big oil companies back to those big oil companies. Senator Milne is the Leader of the Greens political party who has led the Greens from the wilderness into the political desert of oblivion. We do know that the member for Melbourne, Mr Bandt, is out there waiting in the wings to lead the Greens out of the desert and back into greener pastures. So when Senator Milne comes in here and talks about the capacity of Australia to meet emissions reduction targets, if she wants to have any credibility whatsoever in relation to these matters then the first thing she should do is indicate the support of the Greens political party for the validation of the regular indexation of the excise on fuel that has been announced by the government in the budget and was initiated this week.