Senator JOHNSTON (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:06): I said—and, of course, the Labor Party do not want to acknowledge what I said—in talking about the minister's two options that, 'On that basis, I accept what he has said, but if everything the minister says is based on fantasy we will tell you and we will revisit this.' What those opposite did was absolutely based on fantasy. There was no plan. There was no contract. There was no design. There was no money, because they took $20 billion out of the program. This is the biggest deception of the Australian public that I have ever seen in the national security space. You have stood there and said, 'We are going to build 12 submarines in Adelaide,' while ripping the process apart and misleading— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Minister . Senator Wong: On a point of order, Mr President: the minister is misleading the Senate, and I seek leave to table his transcript of interview where he says: 'We will deliver those submarines from right here at ASC in Adelaide.' Let it be tabled! Read the whole thing! The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong! On two matters, Senator Wong: firstly, that was disorderly in relation to the first matter. The second matter is that you sought leave. Is leave granted? Leave not granted. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order!