Senator FIFIELD (Victoria—Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Assistant Minister for Social Services) (14:57): Here we go again. The only difference is it is not the Australian Greens asking the question this time, it is the Australian Labor Party. The government has been clear all the way through that every Commonwealth government department and agency should be good stewards of taxpayer dollars. The ABC and SBS should not be exempt from that legitimate public expectation that they get good value from each of the hard-earned taxpayer dollars that they render to the Australian government. That was the basis of the efficiency review that was commissioned. You would be aware that the results of that work have been provided to the boards of the ABC and SBS. The government is confident that the work of that review can be implemented by the ABC, can be taken into account by the ABC board without— Senator Cameron: That is just another Liberal lie. Add it to the pile! The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron! Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order—as always, it goes to direct relevance to the question. The specific question was about the promise about no cuts to the ABC or SBS. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. The question cannot be taken in isolation when it has the preamble that Senator McEwan gave to the question. The minister is addressing the question. Senator FIFIELD: As I was saying, the government is confident that the boards of the ABC and SBS can find efficiencies without affecting production and without affecting content over the various platforms of the two organisations—that there are savings that can be made in the back of house. The proposition of those opposite is actually quite absurd. What we are saying—and I think what the Australian public expects—is that organisations should be as efficient as they can be. The alternative to that is that organisations should be needlessly inefficient. That is not a proposition that we can support. In relation to the dollar figure that was cited, that relates to a contract which the foreign affairs portfolio had with the ABC, which has now been concluded by this government.