Senator JOHNSTON (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:00): I say to the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate that when this government came to power it presumed that there had been something done on the two options that were left to the government on SEA 1000. What we have ascertained is that all of the theatre surrounding the reduction from four options—that is, a MOTS and a modified MOTS to son of Collins and a bespoke design; moving to son of Collins and a bespoke design—was in fact theatre. There was in fact no work being done on those two remaining options. Indeed, what was happening was the Labor government was taking money out of the submarine program; just ripping it off. The proof of that pudding is that there is no contract, no commitment and no obligation on the government to do anything with respect to submarines in Adelaide. You would have thought that South Australian Labor— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Moore, you have a point of order? Senator Moore: Thank you, Mr President. My point of order is on direct relevance. The question is very specific: it is about comments about outsourcing. If the minister could actually move towards the outsourcing element, that would be useful. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Moore. I do remind the minister of the question. Minister, you have 43 seconds left to answer the question. Senator Conroy: Even the President smells the blood in the water. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Conroy! Senator JOHNSTON: Outsourcing is about contractual obligations to secure the program in Adelaide. There was no such securing of this program in Adelaide. The Labor Party senators in this chamber were utterly asleep. The bird has flown. Time is now against us, and action must be taken by a government that knows what it is doing. The fact is that the South Australian Labor government and the South Australian Labor senators sat on their hands and swallowed up the spin of their own government.