Senator KIM CARR ( Victoria ) ( 14:52 ): Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. At the weekend, a delegate to the National Party Federal Council, Martin Svikis, said, and I quote: 'Fee deregulation means let it rip.' Why is the government so determined to press ahead with fee deregulation when even rank-and-file members of the National Party know that it means 'let it rip'?