Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance) (14:09): I absolutely stand by those statements. I refer to the statements of the Leader of the Opposition when he was the Minister for Financial Services and Superannuation, when he said, 'increases in components for a super come out of people's wages, not other business profits'. I would also refer the honourable senator to a very astute and insightful article by Peter Martin in the Fairfax papers, hardly an apologist for the coalition, who pointed out that if the Labor trajectory in increasing compulsory super had stayed in place, workers were in line for a 0.5 per cent pay cut on 1 July 2015 and a 2½ per cent pay cut by— Senator Cameron: I rise on a point of order on relevance, Mr President. The question is very specific. Peter Martin does not employ anyone— The PRESIDENT: The minister answered the question in his opening remarks. The answer has been directly relevant, and he is following up with supplementary commentary, which is— Senator Cameron: So you are not allowing me to finish my point of order? The PRESIDENT: On the matter of direct relevance, a minister could not have been any more relevant. Senator CORMANN: I could not have been more relevant. Under the previous Labor government's approach, workers across Australia were in line for a 2½ per cent pay cut in order to pay for the increase in compulsory super. Under the coalition together with crossbench senators, like the Palmer United Party, the Family First Party— (Time expired)