Senator LINES (Western Australia) (14:18): Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. In the light of the minister's statements to the Senate yesterday that cuts to cleaners wages are 'absolutely not likely to occur' and, I quote, 'My money is on it not happening,' both of which are completely at odds with the advice of the minister's own department, how can cleaners trust the minister when he claims that wages will not be cut?