Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance) (14:42): I have to say, I like Senator Conroy's interjection that we need operation budget repair. And maybe he should have a chat to the Leader of the Labor Party in the other place—Mr Shorten, Labor and the Greens sadly want us to keep borrowing from our children and grandchildren in order to fund our lifestyle and our consumption today. But that will hurt our economy into the future. It will hurt opportunities for our children and grandchildren into the future, because—you know what?—eventually we will have to pay back the cost for our lifestyle spending today. We cannot keep spending more than we get. We are forcing our children and grandchildren to pay for our consumption today—with interest. All of these cash handouts that Labor wants to keep— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Cormann, you are entitled to be heard in silence. Debating the matter across the chamber at this hour is disorderly; the time is after question time. Senator CORMANN: Thank you, Mr President. What I would say to senators all around this chamber is that you might think that the decisions in this budget were tough, but if we do not make these decisions today, the decisions will only become harder. (Time expired)