Senator RONALDSON (Victoria—Minister for Veterans' Affairs, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Centenary of ANZAC and Special Minister of State) (14:05): Senator Farrell, if I actually thought you were serious about this then I might have a completely different answer. The reality is that for a representative of the Australian Labor Party to talk about the impact on veterans or talk about the impact on the general community is, quite frankly, the absolute height of hypocrisy. What we have done in this budget is try to ensure the sustainability— Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order on relevance. We are operating as a team on this issue today. The specific question, as the minister knows, is about the hardship for losing $870 a year. I would ask you to draw the attention of the minister to the question. The PRESIDENT: The minister still has 34 seconds remaining. I do draw the minister's attention to the question. Minister, continue. Senator RONALDSON: Despite the best endeavours of the dream team, I will actually continue my answer. What I will say to Senator Farrell is that, when you reflect back on your time in this chamber, I wonder whether you, indeed, will finally acknowledge that the actions of the Australian Labor Party required this government to make decisions—not decisions we wanted to make but, regrettably, decisions we had no choice but to make. When I look again at your record in relation— (Time expired)